[at-l] Maintainerous question...

Marsha atrailhiker at adelphia.net
Sat Feb 17 07:03:11 CST 2007


Thanks for posting that John.

And if anyone would like a picture for curiosity's sake, email me.

I photographed a huge log north of Blackburn last year; these are great rest 
areas too!

Marsha


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Hedrick" <jhedrick at erols.com>
To: "Walt Daniels" <wdlists at optonline.net>; <Slyatpct at aol.com>; 
<at-l at backcountry.net>
Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 7:56 AM
Subject: Re: [at-l] Maintainerous question...


> If the log is on the ground it may be acting as a check dam or waterbar 
> and
> thereby preventing erosion.  That might be one reason the maintainer 
> decided
> to leave it in place and notch the log to make it easier for hikers to 
> step
> over.
>
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Walt Daniels" <wdlists at optonline.net>
> To: <Slyatpct at aol.com>; <at-l at backcountry.net>
> Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 12:09 AM
> Subject: Re: [at-l] Maintainerous question...
>
>
>> If the log is flat on the ground or imbedded in it a bit, it is hard to
>> avoid damaging the saw blade by sawing into the dirt or perhaps rocks
>> below
>> it. Generally it is a complicated question exactly how the log will 
>> behave
>> as you cut through, depending on all the various stresses. You can 
>> usually
>> tell as you get close to going through it and may well stop at that point
>> if
>> it is going to do something you are not comfortable with.
>>
>> Almost nothing you do with down trees discourages either bikes or ATVs.
>> The
>> bikers actually like the logs for jumping over unless they are reall big.
>> Or
>> they just go around and creat a new piece of ugly trail. They are also
>> armed
>> with saws and will modify things to suit them. We dropped more than 20
>> trees
>> across ATV access paths and they had all been sawed out within a week.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: at-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:at-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
>> On
>> Behalf Of Slyatpct at aol.com
>> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 10:39 PM
>> To: at-l at backcountry.net
>> Subject: Re: [at-l] Maintainerous question...
>>
>>
>> My guesses are the log could be under stress and it's not as easy as it
>> looks to cut it in two, but more likely to help discourage mountain
>> bikers.
>>
>> Sly
>>
>> In a message dated 2/16/2007 10:09:26 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>> athiker at smithville.net writes:
>>
>> Hey...I  was remind on my recent hike in PA of something I've wondered
>> about
>> for a  long time. Maybe some of you maintainer-types know the answer to
>> this.  In the event that there is a log laying across the trial, why  do
>> maintainers sometime cut halfway down in two places and then (I assume)
>> plunge cut between the two cuts...therby making, essentially, a big
>> notch...which is where hikers step thru/across the log? It'd have to be
>> easier to just make two vertical cuts all the way thru the log and then
>> have one piece to roll out of the way. What is the logik doing the
>> 'halfway
>> twice and cut between' method?
>>
>>
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